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Sand bags and making of them.
sgtreef
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Oklahoma, United States
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Posted: Sunday, April 16, 2017 - 09:26 PM GMT+7
Well as I am going to be doing a few Nam Dio's I am going to need a bunch of sand bags.
Can I use air dry clay for most and cap with two part epoxy putty ones?
Are there any good places out there on making them?
I have looked but none seem correct.

Thanks


Jeff
ComaBlack
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Ontario, Canada
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Posted: Monday, April 17, 2017 - 01:07 AM GMT+7
Strips of tissue, wrapped into a tube around a knife handle and one end glued closed. Fill with sand, glue other end closed. Place on model, soak in water/white glue solution. Gently work into place. Takes some practise.
Knuckles
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Oregon, United States
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Posted: Monday, April 17, 2017 - 09:55 AM GMT+7
I have used Sculpey (bake it in the oven) with good results before. My GF also tried to "show me up" and made a batch out of red earth potters clay. They turned out not-too-bad. A little soft on detail, maybe.
retiredyank
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Arkansas, United States
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Posted: Monday, April 17, 2017 - 10:23 AM GMT+7
[Excepting ComaBlack's technique(of which the use of tissue is inherent)] You should wrap sandbags in a tissue dampened, with glue and water.
sgtreef
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Posted: Monday, April 17, 2017 - 11:42 AM GMT+7
All good ideas.

Jeff
Pave-Hawk
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Western Australia, Australia
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Posted: Monday, April 17, 2017 - 01:22 PM GMT+7
If you are going the clay/epoxy route and you want to add fabric texture to the sand bags, organza is excellent. Lightly pressed into an uncured sandbag it's delicate enough to provide a reasonably realistic weave, assuming the type of bag you are replicating had it.
sgtreef
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Posted: Friday, April 28, 2017 - 12:06 AM GMT+7
So in Nam all plastic bags I guess?




Jeff
CaptSpeirs
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California, United States
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Posted: Sunday, May 14, 2017 - 01:35 PM GMT+7
I once saw a modeler take a box of Chiclets and soak the candy off and then place and form them as desired. Then before they hardened, he used a T-shirt to press a cloth pattern in the Chiclets. He also used an X-acto blade to press the stitching pattern in them.

Now the trick was to put the Chiclets in your mouth (don't chew) and soak the candy off and in turn warms them so they can be contoured easier.
sgtreef
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Posted: Monday, June 05, 2017 - 08:23 AM GMT+7
Okay anybody have any idea how this guy took this shower curtain and made these bags?

I give up.






Kevlar06
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Washington, United States
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Posted: Monday, June 05, 2017 - 09:55 AM GMT+7

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Okay anybody have any idea how this guy took this shower curtain and made these bags?

I give up.



It's a beautiful diorama, but point in fact, the sandbag material used in 'Nam, and later was made from woven nylon strip, in a fine mesh pattern and it was green in color. The mesh pattern would be almost invisible in 1/35 scale, but I have to agree, the artwork of the diorama is fabulous and certainly relays the effect well. I make my sanbages out of Milliput, rolled and formed into a "snake" and flattened on one end, pinched into a narrow opening on the other, if I want texture I press a wet metal screen into it-- which keeps it from sticking. That said, I recently found a pretty good representation from Pegasus models, who makes a bag of 100 ready made resin sandbags for "wargaming" in 1/35 scale-- they look pretty close without the trouble of making them, they use about five different representations, so they don't all look alike, and they have a fine "fabric mesh" texture. You might see if you can find these-- I think Stevens International carries them.
VR, Russ
sgtreef
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Posted: Monday, June 05, 2017 - 09:58 AM GMT+7

Quoted Text


Quoted Text

Okay anybody have any idea how this guy took this shower curtain and made these bags?

I give up.



It's a beautiful diorama, but point in fact, the sandbag material used in 'Nam, and later was made from woven nylon strip, in a fine mesh pattern and it was green in color. The mesh pattern would be almost invisible in 1/35 scale, but I have to agree, the artwork of the diorama is fabulous and certainly relays the effect well. I make my sanbages out of Milliput, rolled and formed into a "snake" and flattened on one end, pinched into a narrow opening on the other, if I want texture I press a wet metal screen into it-- which keeps it from sticking. That said, I recently found a pretty good representation from Pegasus models, who makes a bag of 100 ready made resin sandbags for "wargaming" in 1/35 scale-- they look pretty close without the trouble of making them, they use about five different representations, so they don't all look alike, and they have a fine "fabric mesh" texture. You might see if you can find these-- I think Stevens International carries them.
VR, Russ



Thanks Russ will look.
But you have to admit they do look pretty close to the Hundreds I filled when I was in. LOL

I have ordered bags from Canada not bad, and from the states that are made in Germany not to good, but small.

Jeff
11Bravo_C2
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Texas, United States
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Posted: Wednesday, June 07, 2017 - 07:04 AM GMT+7
I use milliput as in the "How-To" here in this site.

http://www.armorama.com/modules.php?op=modload&name=Sections&file=index&req=viewarticle&artid=116